Transition

Dear Readers,

The next series of posts will focus on Judaism and Buddhism. However, the content won’t be exclusive to those religions. I will continue to touch on themes of Christianity (including describing my visit to the Saddleback Church south of Los Angeles) and religion in general.

The bulk of the action described in this section took place last year.

I hope you enjoy reading these posts as much as I did living the experiences they describe.

Thank you, Corinna

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20 thoughts on “Transition

  1. Thank Heavens, as I was starting to wonder which would come first: Corinna moving off the topic of Christianity, or Jesus’ long-awaited return! 😉

  2. yaaay! I am eagerly awaiting your comments re Judaism. I’ve recently been looking into some of our Jewish roots. Michelle and I were in Israel 2 years ago, and I’ve been reading a couple books, one by a Jew the other by a Jewish Christian. I’ve been to Saddleback a couple times. It’s located in Orange County, where Disneyland is, so you may have noticed some similarities? …at least in the parking lot….VERY organized…

    • Hey, I live in the OC–its not ALL Disney, you know. There’s Knott’s Berry Farm too! LOL! I’ve never been to Saddleback, but I did read the pastor Rick Warren’s book, A Purpose-Driven Life. It was okay but I didn’t find it terribly inspiring, or controversial for that matter….

    • Jmontyjr, I realize that you weren’t addressing that comment to me, but as I read it again today, I decided that I would like to speak to it because, frankly, although this was intended to be Corinna’s journey, it has become about a lot of us. I am not sure what you meant by your comment, but I want to assure you that it has become about me. Although I identify as a non-christian, sometimes agnostic, I do think a great deal about spirituality and where it fits in my life. But since discarding my early Methodist learnings, I have never really again totally re-defined theologically what I do believe. It has been through all of the discussion that I have been motivated to do so. It really isn’t important to tell you what I discovered for myself. What is important is for me to tell you that it happened because of Corinna’s writing and all of the blog community who have had rich discussions about a myriad of topics…..mostly religious! It has been exactly what I needed…..and it, thankfully, has been about me.
      Merrill

      • I realize that this was not how you intended it to be read, but I guess I wanted to affirm this journey we have been on…….Rick Warren doesn’t know everything, although I sure he would like you to buy his book to discover if this is true or not, MET

        • Merrill said:

          …….Rick Warren doesn’t know everything, although I sure he would like you to buy his book to discover if this is true or not.

          LOL! He must be doing something right, ’cause he turned that book into a marketing empire. Loved your previous post as well–a very succinct and lucid description of what this blog has meant to so many of us. And if faith doesn’t touch the “Me” in me, then what’s the value? Thank you, Merrill!

      • Thanks, Merrill. You’ve helped me. I have walked in footsteps, stood on shoulders, but what I do about what I see is up to me. I think Yoda may have been wrong (or at least I misunderstood), there IS a “try.” Most of the time it’s the best I can do. I am deeply grateful to Corinna and all for opening new places to explore.

  3. In the lull before Corinna continues here exploration of other religions, there’s something I’d like your collective opinions (if you have 1.5 hours of your life to spare):

    http://vimeo.com/70066007

    The video was produced by the JWs, and is based on the parable of the prodigal son. Thoughts?

    Dave

    • I watched the first few minutes, then jumped around some (I mean, we know how the story ends, right)? No great insights to share yet, but I could lube the entire chassis of my old ’65 Chevy Biscayne with the kid’s friends hair! I’d say the characters are a little cartoonish. Not being familiar with the nature of the sect, is it an accurate depiction of what goes on at JW meetings?

      • Hi Tim,

        Yeah, that’s the “bad influences” guy, who is depicted as being “Worldly” although he calls himself a JW.

        If you jumped around, you likely skipped the elements I was referring to: unfortunately it’s more subtle than that.

        The story contains a number of JW preconceptions about the lifestyles of “Worldly” people (which in their book would include anyone who’s not a JW, i.e. even if you may think of yourselves as believers and followers of Christ, per JWs, you’re still on the wrong path as a part of Christendom, AKA false religion).

        The family’s construction business is lauded as the more-Godly career, since it allows “putting kingdom interests first”; compare that to the evils of a job working in a big-city internet-advertising agency (a job which the JW had no experience and/or training to land, thanks to likely being home-schooled). That thinking parallels how the Bible glorifies Abraham’s pastoral shepherding lifestyle of tent-living over the city-dwelling lifestyle of Lot (midrishim speculate that Lot abandoned the family business upon moving to Sodom to lend money and earn interest, AKA usury).

        The 21 yr old kid broke into his “pioneering savings account” to finance his expensive life-lesson on the importance of having a college education (that “pioneer savings account” is the JW version of a college savings fund, except JWs don’t encourage their kids to GO to college, but to “put kingdom interests first”: it’s a savings fund to be spent to finance their full-time unpaid volunteer door-knocking, like young Mormons commit to a year-long mission, except it potentially never ends for JWs). So for attempting to make his own way in the World or to compensate for his parent’s utter lack of failure to plan for any career other than “pioneering”, he gets declared “prodigal son”.

        Dave

        • Dave–
          Like I mentioned, I don’t know much about the JW’s doctrines or beliefs, but I had no idea they were so isolationist in their view of others. Given their relatively small numbers, I haven’t had a chance to know very many personally. We do have an adherent at work, but she’d fall into the “lapsed” category given the way she embraces “worldly” ways. I’ll definitely have to watch this in its entirety. What you describe sounds like a modern version of shunning, which I think we touched on several threads ago….

  4. Hi Dave-
    I thought I posted this a couple of hours ago, but it spun off into space…anyway…

    I’m definitely going to have to watch the whole movie as time & opportunity permit. As I mentioned, I’m not familiar with JW doctrines and beliefs, but I had no idea they were so exclusivist in their views of others. Give their relatively small numbers, I haven’t had many opportunities to know any. We do have an adherent at work, but she’d fall into the “lapsed” category given her embracing “worldly” ways. Your description sound like a modern version of shunning, which I think was discussed a few threads back.

    Thanks!

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